" shadowskipper - Sorry, wrong guy, I know who you mean and Im a bit smarter than him.

I have never run for the Board. Anyway, half those people are a joke, why would I want to be associated with those clowns?

I couldn't in clear conscience run anyway, I may have to leave. The good people presently on the board are going away next cycle and I have a feeling their positions will be filled with the more clowns.

Between the clowns and the water rates, together they could bankrupt me if I stay. "

" $18,000 just to be courteous, cooperative and friendly. Try it SCA, Ms. Borda and lngtimscresident. And BTW, tms,I believe he has run for the BOD several times and has been rejected each time by popular vote. "

" lngtimscresident: It sounds like you need to run for the BOD yourself. You seem to have a clear understanding of what the problems and opportunities of the SCA really are. We could use someone like you. "

" Shadowskipper, lets be honest with the good people reading. Extortion abounded event organizers placed outrageous and gratuitous conditions on the continuation of the event you mention.

Ms. Borda refused these conditions, as any prudent manager would/should have done. Horary for her!

She didnt send the event packing; they packed up and left on their own haughty recognizance. And, I bet you shadowskipper, President Borda would welcome the events retrun on terms reasonable for all Creekians.

She was looking out for all Creekians by not kowtowing to the self-serving demands of this special interest group. The Horse Palace belongs to all Creekians not just to your horse group.

As time passes increasingly more people are beginning to appreciate the desire of SCAs president to do SCA business on behalf of all Creekians.

SCA business practices are changing; the special interest groups are rapidly loosing control of SCAs function. AINT THAT GREAT!

Lovenv-its not the money love, we all got more than we know what to do with; right?

It is about yours and my property values. It would be fine if all we had to do was increase our fees and all our problems are solved.

What would be your upper limit? 100 dollars/mo? 200 dollars/month? Some Creekians could afford 5-6 grand per year (Hey, we could get rid of the riff-raff that way hummm)

What would you suggest we do with others who diminish Creekians amenities without facing any charge? "

" THE HORSE PALACE CAN PAY FOR ITSELF. It made a net profit of $18,000 for just ONE horse show in Sept 06. That was $18,000 going to the SCA without any strings. That could have been done over and over again. But, Pam Borda replaced it with a flea market which made $400. WooHoo..good job!! That horse show committee left the SCA because of the difficulty in dealing with Borda. Borda is doing everything she can to dissuade horse event promoters from any money making opportunities at the Horse Palace so that she can convince SCA homeowners that the Horse Palace is not profitable. Open your eyes. The Horse Palace can be very profitable with the SCA running it as an equine friendly business. The key word is... "friendly" "

" So, they are going to charge us $8 more a month to do what they did this year with the roads? which is nothing. Hey, i have an idea, maybe the tire places will give a kickback to the association for increase in front end alignment business? Then the Assoc could pay for the horse palace with that! "

" Howly and fordguy, it is potentially a much greater problem than a security guy driving a truck to town.

Because of the way the SCAs corporation is organized contractually, certain things have to happen, some things cant happen and other may happen.

Creekians by contract have to support its amenities, roads, golf course, horse palace, skeet range, camp ground and shooting range with a monthly assessment fee.

Contractually, Creekians cant sell or otherwise dispose of its amenities. That is not totally true; if 75 percent of Creekians agree we can alter the rules. Since no more than 10 percent of Creekians ever turn out for an election, no-sale is a given.

What about things that could happen?

The skeet range pays for itself, why cant the horse palace and golf course?

Costs to Creekians can be equalized by the implementation of Special Improvement Districts. Why should a home owner share a cost equally when the benefit isnt shared equally?

Special Improvement Districts are not an additional tax as many would have you believe, but a way to equalize use with cost. Why should Howley, I and others who dont use the amenities have to pay the same as the homeowners who are use the amenity on a daily basis? Is that fair?

The first positive step in the direction of change is to remove three directors from the SCA Board; Hartley, Dean and McGinty. These three directors are filled with determination to preserve SC as is (I use it you pay for it) And I don't believe most Creekians want it that way.

What they want is to reserve the Horse Palace and Golf Course for use by a few Creekians but paid for by all Creekians. The only way to finance this plan is to raise association fees for all Creekians each time costs increase.

Budget cuts only result in cuts in service; costs go up, assessment fees rise and services go down.

President Borda began a strategic planning group consisting of homeowners and business people to identify potential problems and catastrophes to form contingency plans that was indefinitely stopped by the three preservationists on the SCA BOD.

These directors are not leaders as evidenced by the important agenda matters being discussed such as having security check on availability of toilet paper at the gun range.

They table or delay the important business matters. And will spend hours in board meetings whining over past decisions that didnt go in their favor.

Through frustration they ran off SCA legal council and dont want to pursue his replacement WHY?

We must get past these people and elect leadership that has vision to deal with items such as:

- Other housing developments in the valley that will access SC amenities on your dollar.

- The potential 200 percent raise in water service charges facing Creekians. Some people will be paying more for water than their mortgage!

- Security issues stemming from having only one access road into SC.

- Water issues: cost and availability.

- How to make Creekians amenities not only self-supporting but also show profit.

- Equalization of assessment fees: One of many examples: why should a business that creates a super impact on roads and infrastructure pay the same assessment fees as absentee land owners?

- Access to more of our County taxes. Believe it or not, Creekians are Elko County citizens and pay taxes.

- Preserving the quality of Creekians lives and property values in the face of ad hoc development.

Do you see, or have you seen any of these critical issues being discussed by the Creekians BODs?

Hell no..! All they care about is, if their pointless prattle was accurately captured in the minutes and if the rifle range has toilet paper. "

" I feel the golf course should be sold out to a private owner. Maybe then so much of our money would not have to go to that. As for the horse palace, it too should be sold to a private owner. It's not making the association any money, why pay to maintain it? The biggest priority should be plowing in the winter and road maintenance. Everyone uses the roads, not everyone uses the golf course and horse palace. "

" I read with amazement how the budget cuts dealt mainly with the golf course and the Horse Palace. I have suspected for years that these were the only things important to the Association. Now here is the proof in print. Being a shift worker , I haven't time to care for horses or wait for a tee-time. I don't own a set of clubs or even a horse shoe but obviously a lot of my dues are going to these two money pits while the Association prints in their journal that snow plowing takes a back seat and may have to wait a one to four days. At least the helecopter ambulance will be able to get to you. Let's hope there is not a fire at your house. It would be nice to hear from others who feel the same. "

" If they are so worried about budget then why do I see the Spring Creek Security truck driving around in Elko all the time.Waste of gas and that also proves that he is not doing his job in Spring Creek.If that is what part of our dues is going to his for him to drive around in Elko then cut that from the budget and do away with security.Its not like he can enforce the laws anyways he cant even carry a badge. "